The Family of John and Jane Long

INTRODUCTION

This page created August 9, 2009.

It is often amazing for me to look back and realize how much information I have gathered on a family line that is not my direct line. The family of John and Jane Long is a collateral line that intersects my main Whitten line. In searching for clues about my Lucinda Whitten who married John N. Long and about their two orphaned daughters of whom no one seems to have heard, I have gathered quite a bit of information on one of the Long families in Winston County, Mississippi. In this page, I hope to share some of that information to provide some context to the story of John N. and Lucinda Whitten, in the hopes that this information will prove useful to other Long family researchers.

Who was the John Long that Lucinda married? Years ago Louis Taunton, a genealogy friend of mine, shared with me an obituary he had from April 1896 for a Mr. Jno. Long, husband of Lucinda Whitten. The obituary gave this information: "He was born in Union District, S.C., July 13, 1836, became a citizen of Miss. in 1850. He united in marriage with Miss Lucinda Whitten January 22, 1867. He professed faith in Christ and was baptised into the membership of the Methodist Church about 25 years ago" [MKJ note: about 1871]. Based on my interpretation of census data, I believe the John Long that married Lucinda Whitten was a son of John and Jane Long of South Carolina (most likely Union District).

According to John's obituary, it seems his family moved to Winston County in 1850. The 1850 census of Winston County shows a John and Jane Lowrey who seem to be the correct family (except for the last name, of course).

Sept 13, 1850, Subdivision No. 22, Pg 339A, House/Family 337/342:
Lowrey, John -- age 54 [1796], Farmer, value 1,400, born SC, married in year
Lowrey, Jane -- age 52 [1798], female, born SC, no read/write
Lowrey, Letty -- age 20 [1830], female, born SC
Lowrey, Henry -- age 18 [1832], male, Farmer, born SC
Lowrey, Elizabeth -- age 16 [1834], female, born SC
Lowrey, John -- age 13 [1837], male, born SC

John's obituary said he was born in 1836, and this census record supports that. The next two families listed in the census are the Hood family and the Bayley family.

House/Family 338/343:
Hood, Abner -- age 25 [1825], Mechanic, born SC
Hood, Palina -- age 30 [1820], female, born SC
Hood, John -- age 3 [1847], male, born SC
Hood, Richard -- age 6/12 [March 1850], male, born SC
Hood, George S. -- age 27 [1823], Mechanic, born SC

House/Family 339/344:
Bayley, George T. -- age 29 [1821], Farmer, born SC
Bayley, Mary -- age 26 [1824], female, born SC

According to marriage records in Winston County, G.S. Hood married Elizabeth Long on March 10, 1856. I am assuming that these are the same George Hood and Elizabeth Long that are mentined above. And I have later learned that the Mary Bayley listed above was also a daughter of John and Jane Long. But how did I determine that the Lowrey family listed above was really the Long family that I sought?

In the Winston County Probate Record of 1851-1853, pg. 291, there is listed the will of a John Lang. The records mention his son John (under 21 yrs), daughter Letty, daughter Elizabeth, son Henry, and wife Jane Lang. The record was given July 30, 1852 and witnessed by J.P. Jeffers, M.C. Gage, and G.S. Hood. It was this probate record that finally convinced me that the Lowrey's listed on the 1850 census were really my Longs. I based my conclusion on the names of the people listed, including the witness G.S. Hood, who was a neighbor of the "Lowrey" family on the 1850 census. Mysteriously, the will does not mention daughter Mary, who was already married to George Bailey by this time. Perhaps her married status was the reason she was not included in the division of property?

The final piece of the puzzle came when I found the family on the 1860 census. The widow Jane was listed as head of household with sons, H.W. (Henry) and Jno (John). Also in the household was Mary Bailey with her three young children. The relationship between Jane and Mary was not listed, but my assumption is that she is Jane's daughter who has been widowed.

September 8, 1860, Louisville P.O., Page 97, Dwelling 634, Family 634:
Long, Jane -- female, age 58 [1802], farmer, real 4000, personal 2500, born SC
Long, H.W. -- male, age 28 [1832], born SC
Long, Jno. -- male, age 23 [1836], born SC
Bailey, Mary -- female, age 32 [1828], born SC
Bailey, Caroline -- female, age 10 [1850], born MS
Bailey, Wm H -- male, age 7 [1853], born MS
Bailey, Jno. -- male, age 4 [1856], born MS

So here is the family story as I have pieced it together. It seems that John and Jane Long moved their family from South Carolina (probably Union District) to Winston County, Mississippi in 1850 and settled the family in northern Winston County, very near the border with Choctaw County. Their eldest child, Mary, married George Bailey around 1850. Father John died within a year or two of arriving in Mississippi, and his will was probated in 1852. Daughter Elizabeth married neighbor George S. Hood in March of 1856, and her sister Lettie married Samuel Haimes in October the same year. By 1860, Mary's husband George Bailey had died, and she and her children moved back in with her mother Jane and two brothers, Henry and John. John married Lucinda Whitten in January 1867, and Henry married Dolly Clark in November 1870. No further information is available on mother Jane at this time.

FAMILY TREE

John Long
Born: about 1796 in South Carolina
Married: probably in early-mid 1820's, probably in South Carolina
Died: between 1851-1852 in Winston County, Mississippi
Buried: Unknown
Father: Unknown
Mother: Unknown
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Jane (maiden name unknown)
Born: about 1798 in South Carolina
Died: after 1860, probably in in Winston County, Mississippi
Buried: Unknown
Father: Unknown
Mother: Unknown
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  1. Mary C. Long
    Born: between 1824-1828, probably in South Carolina, maybe Union District
    Married: about 1850
    Spouse: George T. Bailey
    Died: after 1900, probably in Choctaw County, Mississippi
    Buried: Unknown

    On the 1850 Winston County, Mississippi census, George T. and Mary Bayley [sic] were listed without children, living two doors down from John and Jane Lowrey (whom I assume were her parents, John and Jane Long). My assumption is that they were newly married, but I don't know whether they were married in South Carolina before the migration, somewhere along the way, or in Winston County once they arrived. George died between 1850-1860 as Mary is listed with her children living in her mother's household on the 1860 census.

    According to the 1860 Winston census, George and Mary had three children. It is assumed that all of their children were probably born in Winston County, Mississippi.

    According to fellow researcher Billy Weeks, "Mary Bailey and her two sons William H. and John R. were still in northern Winston County in the 1880 census, living between the Shaw Spring and the Choctaw County line." John Bailey married Lucy Susannah Porter about 1883, and they had two daughters: Lennie (born January 1884) and Minnie (born August 1886; both birthdates per census records). John's wife Lucy died in 1886, and the 1900 census of Choctaw County, Mississippi lists John as widowed. Living in his household on that census were daughters Lennie and Minnie, mother Mary Bailey (who would not or could not give her age!), one household servant named William Carr, and two female cousins Lummie and Mary Long. Current theory is that Lummie and Mary Long are the orphaned daughters of John Bailey's uncle John N. Long, brother to his mother Mary Bailey, who died in 1896. See the family page of John and Lucinda Long and the discussion on the Winston County Message Board at Ancestry.com for more information.

  2. Frances Letitia "Lettie" Long
    Born: 1831, probably in South Carolina, maybe Union District
    Married: October 09, 1856 in Winston County, Mississippi
    Spouse: Samuel Edward Hames (also written as Haimes)
    Died: 1908, probably in Winston County, Mississippi
    Buried: Antioch Cemetery, Winston County, Mississippi

    According to Billy Weeks, "Lettie Long was Frances Letitia Long (1831-1908) who was married on 9 Oct. 1856 in Winston County to Samuel Edward Haimes (1823-1901). Lettie's brother Henry Long was bondsman with Sam Haimes in obtaining the marriage license. Their marriage was performed by Methodist minister James Oliver Woodward.

    "Sam and Lettie Haimes lived in the Gum Branch community in northern Winston County. Their farm was located at the intersection of the Louisville-Houston Road and the Webster-New Prospect Road, north of the Noxubee Creek. They were the parents of four sons and two daughters. Sam and Lettie Haimes were buried in the cemetery at Antioch Baptist Church, along with many members of their family. A photograph of Sam and Lettie with their youngest daughter Virginia was included in the 1980 book Winston County And Its People.

    "One of their sons, Robert Boyd Haimes (1859-1944), was married first to Nancy Alice "Allie" Porter (1862-1893). Allie Porter Haimes was a sister of Lucy Susannah Porter (1860-1886) who married John R. Bailey. Lucy and Allie both died young and were buried in the cemetery at Antioch Baptist Church. They were the two youngest sisters of my maternal great grandfather Porter. A photograph of Lucy and Allie with their mother Nancy Wallace Porter also was included in the book Winston County And Its People. Lucy was the mother of two daughters, and Allie was the mother of four sons and one daughter."

    Terry Haimes, descendant of Sam and Letty, explained the spelling of the family surname: "...the i was added to our name by his [Sam's] children, you can see it change in the land records of the courthouse, nothing official as far as I know but they all 6 did it, except one of the grandchildren named one of his four children Hames..." Terry also had this to say about Letty: "We always refer to his wife as Miss Letty, she was a small fiesty woman and very stong willed and a hard worker."

  3. Henry Wade Long
    Born: 1832 in Union District, South Carolina
    Married: November 24, 1870, probably in Winston County, Mississippi
    Spouse: Dorothy Winston "Dolly" Clark
    Died: January 10, 1885, probably in Winston County, Mississippi
    Buried: Antioch Cemetery, Winston County, Mississippi

    Henry Long married Dolly Clark, daughter of E.B. Clark, in 1870. According to descendant Johnny Long, they had 5 children (all probably born in Winston County, Mississippi):

    Henry died in 1885, leaving Dolly with 4 young children. She was allowed to be the guardian of her children's affairs, and the guardianship records of Winston County have several entries concerning Bertie's and John's accounts.

    The January 24, 1885 edition of The Winston Signal, the Winston County newspaper at that time, ran a nice obituary written by a man named David.

    ** OBITUARY OF MR. HENRY LONG **
          "When an important man dies it is the privilege of his friends to testify to the nobleness of his character, and such commendations cannot fail to be appreciated by his many friends. The intelligence of the death of Mr. Henry Long has occasioned in the hearts of the people in different parts of the county deep sorrow, for he was widely and favorably known.
          He was about 52 years old and leaves a widow and 5 children. He was born in Union Dist., S.C. and moved to Winston Co., Ms. in 1850 where he has remained until his death, which took place on the 10th. His special field was agriculture. He was much more than an ordinary farmer, his methods being strikingly original and effective. His desire to keep abreast of the times caused him to avail himself of good means for agricultural information, and thus his reputation of being a successful farmer was well deserved.
          Mr. Long was not a member of the church but was a genial, wholehearted gentleman, and as one who was always ready to do what he could for the benefit of others, he is held in grateful remembrance. Such stalwart virtues cannot fail to produce eternal fruitage.
          As a husband he was faithful and devoted, as a parent his affection was universal in its scope and intensity. Everywhere he was the same earnest man, performing his part well, and by his liberal financial indulgences has left a lasting monument to his memory. Although the rain poured in torrents almost, yet a faithful band of his associates followed his silent form as it was slowly borne to its final resting place.
          Never did grief at a loss of a friend seem more profound or sympathy more tenderly expressed. Mr. Long has passed beyond our vision, yet he lives in our recollection and we are made to say that the county has sustained a great loss in his death.
         To his worthy and deeply affected family we extend our sympathy."
       
          - David -
    After Henry's death, Dolly remarried to Ernest Spiva in 1889. They had one daughter named Krama Spiva.

  4. Elizabeth Long
    Born: about 1834, probably in South Carolina, maybe Union District
    Married: March 10, 1856 in Winston County, Mississippi
    Spouse: George S. Hood
    Died: Unknown
    Buried: Unknown

    The 1850 census of Winston County, Mississippi shows Elizabeth living with her parents (John and Jane Lowrey) and next door to George S. Hood, who is living with Abner and Palina Hood. No relationship between George and Abner is listed, but since the two men are ages 27 and 25 respectively, my assumption is that George and Abner were brothers.

    The 1860 census of Winston County, Mississippi (Page 666, Census Page 70, 8/17/1860, House 446/446) shows the following:
    Hood, G.S. -- age 31 [1829], male, wagon maker, born SC, real estate 200, personal 1000
    Hood, S.E. -- age 25 [1835], female, born SC
    Hood, A.R. -- age 2 [1858], male, born MS
    Stott, C.M. -- age 11 [1849], male, born SC

    I have no further information on this family at this time.

  5. John N. Long
    Born: July 13, 1836 in Union Distrit, South Carolina
    Married: January 22, 1867 in Winston County, Mississippi
    Spouse: Lucinda A. Whitten
    Died: March 13, 1896 in Winston County, Mississippi
    Buried: Antioch Cemetery, Winston County, Mississippi (either unmarked or marked only with a sandstone rock)

    See family page of John and Lucinda for more information on this family.

FAMILY HISTORY

Tax Rolls for Winston County, 1837-1845:
There are several Longs listed in the early Winston County tax rolls, but no relation to John Long is known.

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1850 Winston County, Mississippi Census: Subdivision No. 22, Reel No. M432-382
Sept 13, 1850, Pg 339A, House/Family 337/342:
Lowrey, John -- age 54 [1796], Farmer, value 1,400, born SC, married in year
Lowrey, Jane -- age 52 [1798], female, born SC, no read/write
Lowrey, Letty -- age 20 [1830], female, born SC
Lowrey, Henry -- age 18 [1832], male, Farmer, born SC
Lowrey, Elizabeth -- age 16 [1834], female, born SC
Lowrey, John -- age 13 [1837], male, born SC
[MKJ Note: I believe this family's surname should be Long instead of Lowrey.]

House/Family 338/343:
Hood, Abner -- age 25 [1825], Mechanic, born SC
Hood, Palina -- age 30 [1820], female, born SC
Hood, John -- age 3 [1847], male, born SC
Hood, Richard -- age 6/12 [March 1850], male, born SC
Hood, George S. -- age 27 [1823], Mechanic, born SC
[MKJ Note: G.S. Hood married Elizabeth Long on March 10, 1856 in Winston County, MS per FTM CD#242 Family Archives: Marriage Index: MS & FL 1800-1900]

House/Family 339/344:
Bayley, George T. -- age 29 [1821], Farmer, born SC
Bayley, Mary -- age 26 [1824], female, born SC
[MKJ Note: Is this Mary also a child of John and Jane Long? See 1860 census below.]
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The 1853 Winston, MS census (heads of household only) shows John Long with 0 males and 0 females, R.J. Long with 2 males and 3 females, H.W. Long with 1 male, and J.C. Long with 7 males and 3 females.
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1860 Winston County, Mississippi Census:
September 8, 1860, Louisville P.O., Page 97, Dwelling 634, Family 634:
Long, Jane -- female, age 58 [1802], farmer, real 4000, personal 2500, born SC
Long, H.W. -- male, age 28 [1832], born SC
Long, Jno. -- male, age 23 [1836], born SC
Bailey, Mary -- female, age 32 [1828], born SC
Bailey, Caroline -- female, age 10 [1850], born MS
Bailey, Wm H -- male, age 7 [1853], born MS
Bailey, Jno. -- male, age 4 [1856], born MS

No John & Lucinda Long or Hoods or Bayleys found on 1870 Winston County, MS census (last searched census and index on December 2002). I have not found John and Lucinda Long on the 1880 Winston or Choctaw County, MS censuses either.

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